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Yep, you invite him into a small apartment and he stinks up the place. I am guessing that the coat may be just too thin. The following 2 images are from that sprue. yes [not me] but you'd need to search thru the hundreds of WiP and GB builds to find out who. Best Lacquer And Acrylic Primers I Use Stynylrez - Vallejo - Mr Surfacer - Alclad 31,216 views Apr 17, 2018 Starshadow Woodworks & Hobbies 18.3K subscribers 541 Dislike Share Welcome to Tip. Ive been using Stynylrez primer on my Bulldog model and I like the results, but using it is not without snags, so far in my experience. by P51dplt Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:43 am, Post Was just typing this when Barry's post was up! On closer inspection if you get a blade under a lifted area it pulls off almost like a stretchy plastic film. I have not had a chance to use their colored primers but I am interested in their metal colored version. Unfortunately there is no easy answer to that. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. You can airbrush Vallejo Primer (recommended), or brush it onto your models. A big nozzle really is a must for this primer but coincidentally I also find the black primer easier to work with compared to the grey primer. March 31, 2017 in Tips & Advice: Painting. I would try leaving the Methylated spirit out and do this: I use Stynylrez now exclusively. he sprayed the model powdered black pastel chalk with a mix of 7 parts Badger Stynylrez black primer and 3 along them with a 5/0 brush . Airbrush Acrylic Medium Airbrush acrylic medium can work great for thinning your airbrush paint. Then I've got to mask the dark earth to add the dark green - but this is where everything has gone to s in the past - when I remove my masking - let's hope the halfords is better than the vallejo or stynylrez - which both peeled like stretchy plastic bags - I don't think I'll sleep too well tonight - the excitement is killing me WHAT AN EXCITING LIFE I LEAD, I had the same problem with Vallejo paint (brushed) over Tamiyawhite rattlecan primer on a 1/72 C-130 and the same problem with Vallejo on top of Vallejo primer (again brushed.) Your link has been automatically embedded. It was the ONLY scratch I could get to show up on the resin following my best attempts to getting a scratch. Other products to consider: (386) Earth Color Kit Woodland Scenics $22.99 $16.79 Grey Surface Primer (200ml) Vallejo Acrylics $16.95 $12.39 Grey Primer AK Interactive $13.99 $9.89 In Stock (Ships in 1-3 business days) List price: $14.75 You pay: $10.79 (All prices in U.S. SNR-204 Stynylrez Red Brown Primer. by jomark Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:32 am, Post I've been searching for a good primer to use on both my plastics and resin kits. Does someone use this stuff around here? $5.99 Price Badger - Stynylrez Primer White 4 oz - 401. First things first, Tesseract Glow comes in the mid-sized paint pot, the one that Contrast Paint comes in. For the record I haven't been thinning it - it is described as airbrush ready - which is what I really found appealing about it. For undercoating/priming I recommend using a cheap Humbrol or Badger exterior mix airbrush. Shop our . Works well on a lot of surfaces. Tamiya - Masking Tape for Curves 2mm - 87177. Would that be MM stuff that youve had issues with? Bottom line is, the vallejo primers are as good as stynylrez (I've used both of them) if you just apply them on cleaned resin/plastic or metal and allow for 1.5-2 days of curing. Current "Snap Kits " are made from " Wot Ever Rubbish " and cannot be Glued by Poly Glues. It dries up fast and is great for both plastic and metal miniatures. I have thinned themdown with IPA and though it gives a nice smooth finish as you mention cleanup is a ball ache. Stynylrez I have found, using it since the dustbin event, to be an easy to use primer. Games Workshop Citadel Technical: Ardcoat by .Brand: Games Workshop. After along the primer to dry overnight, I checked the durability the next say, and sure enough.. it scratched just as easily as the vallejo. I Vallejo camouflage olive green and green brown applied with a 3/0 painted the yellow . By doing this I did not have any issues with the primer lifting. I have recently finished an Airfix Shackleton using Vallejo primers. Does peel off if sanded - very similar to vallejo apparently. (Flemmy Maggott), Knarthex commits Ral Partha (Not) Love, Orc Archers 02-077. by jelliott Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:28 pm, Post Stynylrez Acrylic Primer Grey 4oz 4 Oz bottle of Acrylic paint. Still had some tip drying as I was shooting a small volume of material. Previously I was rattle canning using humbrol cans & using tons of masking tape or whitetac & I never had a problem with paint coming off - EVER!!! i love the VJ primers its all i use nowadays. Somehow I didn't realize that was the same product. I used Tamiya masking tape throughout, and didn't have any paint or primer lifting at all at any stage (and believe me it's a substantial kit even at 1/72). It's also a hard chemistry problem, as you need to both grip to the plastic, and provide a smooth visual finish filling in minor scratches, and yet have enough tooth for subsequent layers to grip. The paint I used on top of the primer was Tamiya acrylics thinned with their own thinner. I might try to find a European shop that sells it and see how it goes. I suggest using some sort of agitator like the Badger paint mixer to really get it mixed well as it's very thick as the video says. and our I still see this as a major step backwards but I just want to get on without the risk of the primer peeling again on a busy camo scheme. Practice on some scrap first. You can get spraygun primers designed for spraying real cars, but they're designed for much bigger nozzles and use with proper safety equipment in a vented environment. Your previous content has been restored. can't be bothered goin thru the Q 'n 'A's so anyway. RESULT - No peeling paint - the Halfords primer has done it's job -feeling good - mojo restored everyone - team hug time. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. David Johnston (Brother Argos) and the Bolter and Chainsword. Citadel Model Primer is the most used spray among Warhammer hobbyists. Browse & discover thousands of brands. Scale Model Shop 1/35 Vehicles Discount Models and Accessories, Live Stock Levels, Fast UK Delivery, Free Delivery Available In this video, Airbrush Primer: Vallejo Surface Primer Vs Badger Stynylrez, I'll tackle the debate that is raging between which of these two brands of primer sucks and which is the best primer you should use for the rest of your life. Iwent for it after you offered me some advice in another thread about Vallejo model air paintsand metallic finishes. I recall reading somewhere that Badger said, "if you must thin it, just use a little water.". Guess it's just where I live and the weather. I'm sure that is well past the cure time Not to mention Vallejo is absolutely terrible on resin. Cookie Notice Fair enough you have to pull right back on the trigger use a higher than normal psi. Vallejo, Badger, Reaper and other brushable/airbrushable should all be safe assuming you don't put anything too harsh in as a thinner. Does not hit it off on resin or metal. 4 oz (120 ml) each. Paint adheres very well to it and it holds up against rigorous masking and handling. Ideally you need to leave it 12 to 24 hours to cure properly. Powered by Invision Community. painting-tools Tamiya - Masking Tape. Stynylrez doesn't need to be thinned. My online searches led me to Stynylrez, and really seemed like the perfect primer, on paper.. The models are hard plastic that can be used to lay down primer well. For use on plastics, metals, woods, resin, various other substrates, Simple and easy clean up. Clear editor. 60ml / 2oz Stynylrez Metallic Primer Badger SNR-212 6.99 Read more Out of stock 120ml / 4oz Stynylrez Silver Metallic Primer Badger SNR-412 11.99 Read more Out of stock 120ml Stynylrez 3 Pack Grey, White, Black Primers Badger SNR-410 30.99 Read more Out of stock 60ml Stynylrez 3 Pack Grey, White, Black Primers Badger SNR-210 18.99 Read more Find deals and compare prices on mineral color at Amazon.comsoor ploom, mineral, flat color The perfect prime, every time available in white gray and black. edit: Was just watching Florymodels Vlog and he also confirmed this as well! I spray with a .4 needle at about 30psi and build up the colour in very light coats. The advantage over vallejo seems to be their curing time and hardness, covering power and ability to preserve detail. Any ideas would be gratefully received as always. I also have a .4 needle set I can use if needed. And then another 24 hours before the first coat of paint. I'm about to order some of this magic plastic primer and am debating between a set of six colors (black, gray, white, olive, yellow, and red-brown), the set of three (black, gray, and white), or just a larger bottle of a single color. Its only a temporary step back though as I will crack the airbrush primer problem trust me. Badger Air-Brush Co. SNR-162 STYNYLREZ, 16 Ounce, Gray *** We ship internationally, so do not use a package forwarding service. by DougC Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:54 pm, Post Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. For those who have experience with both what's your preference? In the end they're both good primers but the Vallejo primers don't like Vinyl minis (softer plastics) and the Stynylrez is fine with it. I've seen modelers going away from Stynylrez because of this. Solvent type primers 'bite' into plastic so you can dust them on & spot prime. I hope its amazing stuff as there are other primers available that don't cause all this hassle. My 4 oz bottle is about 18 months old, and is stil good Edited February 17, 2017 by Lancer512 Quote Lars_Befring Newbie Members 8 posts Posted February 17, 2017 Ah, yes! Hence a trial for Muscle and if it does not work I will clean the windows. Powered by Invision Community, Almost anything - especially the British 11th AD, WW II aircraft and wartime and postwar Post If you're airbrush priming (I assume you are) I'd recommend using Mr. Surfacer instead. I really like the way that it levels out and will hide small surface imperfections. I've used Rust-o-leum- Painters touch primer, Tamiya Surface Primer, and Vallejo Surface Primer and wasn't really satisfied with the results. Maybe it is water based primers in general then? No I would not do that Dave. No issues. Stynylrez 60ml (Bottle) Matt. I love the stuff - needs at least a 0.5mm needle, and higher pressure, but then is easy to build up in thin layers. I only picked it up as a primer for the Millennium Falcon as it's not aggressive. Having got home and tested it on my latest 'masterpiece' it seems a lot like the Humbrol rattle cans I have used in the past - but you get a lot more for your money. It's easy! Stynylrez is supposed to be airbrush-ready but it's actually super-thick. Agreed I will carry on with Vallejo Cleaner. Ok then mate it must be the thin coats you put on. I watched that video. Yes, I did wash the models with Polyprep before starting. Mig primer does work, but you need to do multiple thin layers, and let it fully dry between each layer. They don't need it. However just on plastic in the kit. Back to good old Mr Surfcaer for me, except on the MF. Great adhesion and coverage without loss of detail. cd. Recommendation is directly from Badger Rep whom I spoke to at AdeptiCon. You can post now and register later. I use a Badger Renegade Velocity with the .3 ultra fine needle. Gold Mission Models Paint $16.29 $14.79. David Johnston (Brother Argos) and the Bolter and Chainsword I've tried hitting it from different distances and adjusting the pressure but it just ends up not adhering properly, pooling or being . They do it in grey, white, black (and uh, mahogany) and it's very easy to use- with a bit of their Mr. Levelling Thinner it basically becomes "Easy Mode". If you have a garage and an organic-solvent mask, then that's an option. Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Polyurethane primers solve the latter two problems, but tend to fall down on the first - which is why they need ages to dry, and also tend to peel off when sanded. I have to be honest, I cannot stand Vallejo primer, mainly for what it does to my airbrush. All the solvent based types are pretty smelly and also require smelly solvents to clean the airbrush afterwards. by ForbesHutton Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:22 am, Post ..only Supa Glues / Araldites .if you lucky ! By Additionally, the final finish is not a proper gloss, more of a satin. Pasted as rich text. Mig one-shot is rebranded stynlrez, but limited colours. Shop at Noble Knight Games for Stynylrez Primers by - part of our Full Inventory collection. Stynylrez Acrylic Primer Metal 4oz 4 Oz bottle of Acrylic paint. Leveling Thinner- it's durable and dries (reasonably) fast, goes through the brush like a dream and the leveling thinner guarantees smooth results. Choose from 6 different color options, or get them all with item #87686. Shake well, I ran mine in the ultra sound cleaner for a few minutes before using and it worked like a charm! For cleaning my a/b I always do a strip clean at the end of every session anyway. I'm curious as to whether this is everyones experience with the white, or perhaps badger just has a slight quality control issue resulting in some of the primers, some of the time, being overly thick. But for Stynylrez I find that it is not very good. In this image reference the shine on the primer. @Tony Olivermight stop by, he uses that primer and is doing lots of paint experiments Good bloke to ask! As is if its too patchy/not uniform nor thick enoughthen it will struggle to stick to itself. After . So, how does it measure up? This first happened a couple of weeks ago with the vallejo / whitetac combination on some plastic food containers I was using for practice with the brush - before moving on to ruining a real model. Use the .4 needle and spray at 30psi. well the halfords has settled and dried a treat - time to add the SKY S in the morning and then real fun starts - mask the sky and add dark earth. You shouldn't be thinning acrylic primer. RAF High Speed Silver Mission Models Paint $10.79 $9.79. But I did have the same problem with the vallejo primer too. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. He's using an Infinity with a .2 needle and it works just fine. Like Bloody Legionnaire, I find it much more scratch resistant than any other primer I've used. Specially designed for Airbrushing your favourite miniatures these high quality paints are manufactured in the United States by the long established and well know Badger Airbrush Company. Intro animation licensed from Videohive (Envato Market).Background music from Youtube audio library (\"Don_t_Look\"). favorite_border Add to Wishlist cached Quick view. So Ive been using Vallejo black primer with my airbrush but the 24hr curing time is killing my mojo for painting. Just had their metallic delivered and will be trying it out soon. Cleaning was ok, again no real problems, but then I use Acetone as a cleanerand fully stripped it afterwards just in case. I wish I could use the stuff. Having larger needle certainly made a difference. That's really interesting as it happens - I have seen these tins - they could be awesome - has anyone tried the tins Oh - I'm 'very' familiar with rattle cans and their 'split personalities' - that why I invested in an airbrush. Meeplemart. *Disclaimer*: these are just my opinions, and the video is meant to be a bit in fun so don't take it too seriously (although I'm serious about my final judgement about these primers).Support my habit as a Patron! What troubles have you had with PU on vinyl, Dullspork? Ive been spraying it unthinned as per the bottle instructions. Reference database, color charts and stash management for all the colors from Stynylrez. Read customer reviews & find best sellers. For FULL Forum access you can upgrade your account here UPGRADE. Matt. Secondly, when cleaning up the airbrush, whilst back flushing large lumps of set primer are blown back into the paint cup and it seems to take two or three back flushes until everything is dislodged and the airbrush properly clean. We offer all your Favorite Hobby Games at affordable price. I find their yellow is perfect for priming Imperator Fists. Paste as plain text instead, and stylnylrez is the new kid on the block. Wow its brilliant! Any input on how well it reacts to long periods of neglect? Rattlecans solve the first problem with included solvent(s) that microetch the plastic surface, giving the primer something to grip to, not an option available to non-toxic airbrush primers for use indoors - you know the stink from rattle cans. Mike's post had me persevere as his advice is always spot-on. Imren is 100% right though just because its touch dry doesn't mean its ready. It also doesn't dry soft and rubbery like a Vallejo primer. In fact, since switching to Stynylrez I've never had the primer peel or lift from the plastic. You cannot paste images directly. The Stynylrez 6 Pack includes 1 each of the following colors: white, gray, black, red brown, olive green, neutral yellow. Anybody else experienced this with Stynylrez? Featured Best selling Alphabetically, A-Z Alphabetically, Z-A Price, low to high Price, high to low Date, old to new Date, new to old Also it seems to have levelled beautifully even where I sprayed on too much a hazard with cans no real control and a real PITA. Whether you are a 40K, Fantasy or Age of Sigmar player, Citadel Model Primer is a great all-around primer to use on your miniatures. Thanks for the tips Peter and Rich. Don't be scared, it will look thick when it goes on, but shrinks back tight once the water has evaporated. DON'T THIN IT. It's a Panzer II" SiG 2013, Non ISM Steve Mottram's "M" Group build, Non ISM Eastbound bound and down S.I.G, Non-ISM Winter Gunpla/Robot/Mecha SiG, Sam Mccord "Top of the Mornin" Porsche Appreciation SIG, Mark Johnson "Hey you in the bushes" German Motorsport S.I.G, Paul's Christmas Polikarpov Buddy build 2017, Bifford's Buddy Bike Build (Ducati Only), An Easter in Isolation - 2020 Egg Build, Summer Sci-Fi & Fantasy Sig (Non-ISM) 2020. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Vallejo surface primers (and the vallejo mecha primers) need just as the Stylnylrez to cure for 24-36 hrs. Very nice finish, but long dry time, cloggy, and not very strong grip unless used in multiple thin layers fully dried between each. Especially when it all gets damp again from spraying the colour coats. Dries in 2 hours. The badger primer needs a .3 or larger needle/nozzle set and 20 or more PSI to spray. Only place I could get it was barwells after a long old search mate managed to get 2x 60ml bottles. When the masking tape is removed or the whitetac on occasions - it is taking the paint & primer off - right down to clean plastic. You can paint over it in 10 mins no problem, less with a heat source; and sand it after 20-30 minutes. Vallejo you know. It isn't as strong as car body primer (that stuff survives paint strippers!) I initially put it down to the fact that the food containers may have some kind of coating that the paint didn't want to stick to - but I moved to stynlrez as a precaution - as it has rave reviews all over the forum. But those Liquitex spray paints do not eat foam. Miniatures of this size have a slightly larger scale than traditional tabletop minis - roughly 40mm or 1:43 in size - allowing for greater detail and a larger canvas to work with. Paul Brown, My order from barwell came today and had a quick go while I had time with this new primer. Vallejo you know. I use Stynylrez now exclusively. So far all the thinning I have done sprayed on well and the surface cured to a hard finish. Xmas week probably isn't the best week for stock levels, to be honest - I've not found stynylrez to be hard to get the rest of the year. Stynylrez 60ml. One and 3 above give a caution on using it on chrome. Thanks Tony - I have been 'in a very dark place' with this problem and everyone's support and ideas have kept my spirits up. May 20, 2017 in Paint. Best to just follow Badgers instructions for spraying it. That was all caused by my rubbing the tip of a toothpick firm across the primer. Also with that time frame the surface may be dry but the underside against the plastic won't be hence the lifting. I can't wait to get my hands on the new colors for sure! Copyright Reaper Miniatures This is not shiny enough to use as a base for Alclad metal lacquers, unless you are looking for a satin final finish. AK uses IPA, but also scratches off very easily. If I ever ran out of. Share Followers 0. Prueba instrumental de efecto alargamiento realizada vs placebo con 20 voluntarias. Too thick and then with too much heat toofast will make it crack/split , Cheers Tony - thanks for the support matey - most appreciated - Steve. Does peel off if sanded - very similar to vallejo apparently. 19207 Precio regular S/35. Portugal y Suiza se miden este martes desde las 2:00 p.m. (hora peruana) en el estadio Lusail en los octavos de final por el Mundial 2022. Badger - Stynylrez Primer Green 4 oz - 405. Giving the plastic a bit of a 'key' witha sanding sponge seemed to solve my very similar problem. By Sadly, Mr. Surfacer is. As Mike as indicated Stynylrez does not peel like Vallejo plus Stynylrez can be sanded to a feather edge (best with wet and dry WET) November 1, 2016 I had another go using it, got much better results, and am beginning to warm to the stuff. Airbrush primers are a bit of a niche product, as airbrush users are a niche market (though growing). Alright guys, I have to give it to Badger Airbrush Co. and their Stynylrez product. I just dont want it cracking. Connect to US. Simple is better, except when complicated looks really cool. Vallejo and Mig Ammo are water based, unlike Tamiya which is an acrylic lacquer that you can thin with water. Hi Guest, Help support our forums, in return you can post and take part in the forum, and have NO adverts. I have some models that I've coated with Vallejo Primer that the paint will peel right off from even after months of it drying. Granted it's not very good for you (I forgot to wear a mask with it once and started trembling, which was very annoying as I couldn't hold my model steady) but it's the only way I prime anymore. As per everything in my life - it wasn't simple. I have used it a few times, sprayed it at a higher pressure than I'd normally use and it went on well and levelled nicely. I've been using it for a while now and I really like it. i try to leave mine at least 24 hours before paint. I know I'm a pain - but "girls just wanna have fun" as Cindy Lauper would say. You can post now and register later. It ticked all the right boxes with me: easy to use, fast drying and easy to sand. What Forbes said. Laboratorio Kosmoscience, Brasil, 2019. intense black 19201 intense black 19201 intense brown 19206 black 10965 Drama effect: largo y negro intenso CY SECRET LASH Mscara-gel extra fijacin para pestaas y cejas 5 g / 0 oz. Perhaps a thicker coat of primer would resist lifting better but I would guess it simply doesn't bond as well as a solvent based primer to the plastic. I will increase the psiand apply thicker coats on some test plasticand see if theshrink back tightmethod works. Any comments? AP. by andygif290368 Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:18 pm, Post parts Tamiya acrylic thinner . Over here in the UK its to find stynylrez, so its hard to do a colour comparison without splashing out on a bottle first, I find Vallejo grey is a good match for grey seer and I use it through and airbrush as a base for contrast paint, the only trouble is its prone to uneven coverage and can be hard to work with when compared to the Black in the same range, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Privacy Policy. Lacquer-based primers, such as Mr Surfacer are another approach, but again are more toxic than a water-based primer though less so than the industrial-scale spray primers. Vallejo, but only because I like the consistency better. For more information, please see our It is self-leveling, detail enhancing, coverage provides excellent adhesion and durability. Personally I'm not looking back from Mr. Surfacer's lacquer airbrush primers + lots of Mr. Can anyone tell me how the Stynylrez grey primer compares to the Vallejo standard grey? If we end up with crash-out Brexit in March I think both will be harder to get and more expensive, but then again lack of stock of primer is likely to be small potatoes when it comes to shortages. Its rebranded Stynylrez Primer. I have yet to spray Stynlrez on resin yet, so we shall see about that, but so far I've liked what I see on plastic. by jomark Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:49 am, Post Reply to this topic . Even more mls for yer money. Missile vs M60 Main 44 Gebirgsjger Battle Tank Yom . I just like the ability to airbrush indoors and have less exposure to chemicals when I have to clean out my airbrush. I shot it through my airbrush, thinned about 50% . For use on plastics, metals, woods, resin, various other substrates, "The perfect prime, every time" available in white, gray, black and hull red. Sign up for a new account in our community. Handy if the other two are out of stock, but I've not needed to so far. I sprayed 2 thin coats of white primer, 3 thin coats of gloss white paint, (masked) and then 2 coats of XF24 to act as dark sea grey. Yeah couple things going wrong there, as someone saidperhaps not waiting long enough between layers and also thinning it. La seleccin de Argentina ha ganado a la de Australia 2-1 y se ha clasificado para los cuartos de final del Mundial de Qatar 2022, donde se enfrentar a Pases Bajos. You can get stynylrez in the UK fairly easily - and it's definitely a big improvement over vallejo IMO. Being in a location/weather that is very hot I find it hard to use stynylrez when unthinned. You shouldn't be thinning acrylic primer. It needs thinner on anything but a .5mm or larger airbrush. Vallejo Surface Primer is widely-available, inexpensive, and versatile. First off, it seems to readily block a 0.5 airbrush tip. You are using an out of date browser. WOW - maybe it's not me? Display as a link instead, AK uses IPA, but also scratches off very easily. They can also be used to primer a whole ton of other things, which is why rattle can primers are far more widely available, from car repairs to craft projects to modelling specific ones such as GW or Army Painter. FYI. Vallejo Primer. Hell, if it weren't for him, many of my models would never have been finished. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Wednesday, March 30, 2016 Badger Stynylrez Test #1 I like Mr. Surfacer, I do. By tosouthern66, February 17, 2017 in Tools 'n' Tips. Acrylic. Use Stynylrez Primers for "the perfect prime every time" on all materials. I buy from these guys (also the Badger main dealers in uk?) Swap tips and techniques, show your latest builds/WIPs, post kit reviews and discuss the latest kits! I've been using Stynylrez primer on my Bulldog model and I like the results, but using it is not without snags, so far in my experience. Last option I've seen (I've ordered from them fine, but not this) is emodels- their 'ultimate' primer is literally relabelled stynylrez, it's the same paint in a different bottle, but smaller colour range. Doing this results in varying amounts of light . This stuff is tough! Other primers and paints don't fall off my kits when using the same procedure so I blame the paint. After an hour it can safely be sanded lightly and it doesn't have any peeling like the vallejo primer I've been using. I do intend going back to airbrush primers - but I just needed to 'get something built' and this has been a big confidence booster for someone new to airbrushing. Sign up for a new account in our community. (not least as I have young children). I use mine with a Badger Patriot and as much as you think initially the brush is clean I invariably end up stripping the brush down. Acrylic. Leave out the meths and use Mr Muscle window cleaner and/or Vallejo or IPA. I can also recommend the white, it's the best airbrush white I have hands down, not just for priming. That being said, their White primer seems really thin in comparison and just doesn't go on right. Badger Air-Brush SNR-410 Stynylrez Water Based Acrylic Polyurethane 3-Tone Primer, 4-Ounce, White/Gray/Black, by Badger Air-Brush Co. 4 5500 Get it Wednesday, Dec 21 - Friday, Dec 30 FREE Delivery Vallejo Model Color 200 ml Polyurethane Primer - Black 3,466 1079 (53.95/l)13.25 Save 5% on any 4 qualifying items Get it tomorrow, Dec 6 by chief5437 Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:50 am, Post The primer color we recommend is Chaos Black. You can look for MIG One Shot Primer. It needs thinner on anything but a .5mm or larger airbrush. Maybe I should try it out with water or airbrush medium and see if there are differences in adhesion. Not used it I stick to Ms 1000 as it works for me. This Badger Airbrush Minitaire Stynylrez Primer White paint pot contains 4 ounces of water based Minitaire Stynylrez Primer White paint. I do have a cheap harbor freight airbrush that I intended to use for priming but I don't like how it handles so I ended up priming with the Velocity instead. But after 24h you'll find that they are way more scratch resistant. Badger: Stynylrez Acrylic Primer - White (120ml) This is a 120ml Badger Stynylrez primer, specifically designed and manufactured for airbrushing in the United States by the renowned Badger Airbrush Company. Badger Air-Brush SNR-322 Stynylrez Water Based Acrylic Polyurethane Surface Primer, 32-Ounce, Gray 4.4 (10) $5600 ($1.75/Ounce) FREE delivery Dec 9 - 13 Vallejo Black Primer Acrylic Polyurethane, 60ml 4.8 (1,565) $596 ($2.98/Fl Oz)$9.99 FREE delivery Wed, Dec 14 on $25 of items shipped by Amazon Vallejo Black Primer Acry-Poly 200ml Paint TIMBERTECH Professional Airbrush Paint, 12x30ml airbrush paint set of Acrylic Paint Brand: AIRGOO, Size: 1 Fl Oz (Pack of 12), Color: Black Customer Ratings 9.8 Find out Customer Reviews - 12*30ml airbrush paint set of Acrylic Paint provides artists amazing vibrancy in their paints.Then, using the original brown color, I paint over the swatches. I spray straight from the bottle (well shaken) at12psi or less. 16.1k. afair - no difference in results to using the rattle can, just better control over it, Halfords and any automotive primer will have a heavier grain than a model dedicated one; a light rub down with micromesh, fine w&d or just a bit of denim cloth smooths it even nicer. by Coen Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:32 am, Post Hi Tony - thanks for coming back. So. January 6, 2019 in Modelling Chat. AxinetonDecember 31, 2018 in + GENERAL PCA QUESTIONS +. by andygif290368 Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:15 pm, Post Adjust your needle and pressures. On 3/31/2017 at 3:11 AM, RouterMike said: 30 minutes from a Good lake, not a Great one, Bones 6: Update #65 - Reaper pledge manager, The Drow paints a Rock Star! At this point I was ready to give up on the Polyurethane primers and figured they just didn't match up to the harder enamel and lacquer primers. I spray it out of the bottle with a 0.3mm fine. When the masking tape is removed or the whitetac on occasions - it is taking the paint & primer off - right down to clean plastic. I'll admit I wasn't super impressed when I first started using it. On bench: nothing, it's all hidden so the wife doesn't see it or the cats mess it up!! Whilst it says that it is dry in 30 to 60 minutes, it has not cured properly so this may be why it is lifting after masking. When it comes to acrylics the paint film is generally a lot weaker than with enamels and, as far as I know, if you want tough the best answer is rattle cans of car type primer. It happened more times than it didn't so I have given up on it. Since their airbrush thinners can work with the surface primers, I figured it would also apply to the stynylrez since it is also acrylic polyurethane. Stynylrez Primers: Metal (473ml Bottle) < Prev: 1; 2; Next > Products 1-24 of 40. My attempt to prime with my GREX required so much cleaning of the airbrush that I went back to brush priming. I found I can thin the white with windex (window cleaning fluid) and spray it, but it definitely loses some of the qualities that make the grey and black so great to use. Even better & cheaper than the Mr Muscle is pre-mixed windscreen wash fluid. Badger Stynylrez Primer Badger Stynylrez Primer. Ive heard of stynylrez (think thats the spelling) and heard only good things and it dries in minutes. Stynylrez Primers: Black Gloss (473ml Bottle) Price: $45.95. 0.4 needle used at full pressure from my infinity I have no problems, I like to know what you think even if it is critique , If you spotted it let me know. Intro logo music licensed from Audio Jungle (Envato Market). With these thin coats was the plastic completely covered? I have to say that after hearing about difficulties folks are having using this primer in the various types of airbrushes I'm glad that I have switched over to Badger. First time trying to Handbrushed 1/24 Aoshima De Lorean Time Machine from Back Im telling yall youre missing out not using ferrero Last pics before it gets dirty! by 11BravoC2 Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:52 pm, Post I just got an email from Badger about another issue i had contacted them about and i also mentioned in my previous email that I really liked the Stynylrez primers but wish they had it in OD green and maybe a rust color. I sprayed it un-thinned through a 0.35 Eclipse with no problems at about 20psi. I shot it through my airbrush, thinned about 50% with W&N Flow improver and water. Is the propellant in rattlecans that's usually to blame for eating foam. It would peal off with the paint attached if I masked off for a second colour so the paint was sticking to the primer but the primer would let go from the model. I've been using Vallejo's Primer for a bit now and thinks it's absolutely fantastic through an airbrush. If it wasn't for that, I think I would prefer Stynylrez. It's really good stuff for sure, best non-rattle can primer you can get IMO. This should speed me up a bit! smelly. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. Secondly, when cleaning up the airbrush, . What ratio, if any, of Ultimate thinner to Stynylrez primer works best? 18 Tones- are offered for the unique needs of the professional airbrush artist and hobbies. Before anyone tries to say it's not being applied correctly (I had the Owner of an American brand of paints recentlytell me I wasn't applying his paint correctly when it failed in a similar manner while simultaneously claiming his paint to be the easiest paint on the market to apply! Vallejo surface primers are acrylic polyurethane based which means that it is somewhat solvent based. It takes a lot more coats to get ideal coverage (compared to Duplicolor), especially with gray, but it really doesn't clog detail and really does have the self-leveling effects that it's advertised to have. My experience with Synylerez is that there is no alternative to stripping. It can be used stand alone, or incorporated in with one of the following options listed above. The MiniJunkie 26.4K subscribers In this video, Airbrush Primer: Vallejo Surface Primer Vs Badger Stynylrez, I'll tackle the debate that is raging between which of these two brands of primer. And much more! Museum, Military, Air and Model Show Pictures. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjQvLz subscriber, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-PmO ebR-tEqHOA. It's certainly the easiest to remove) I had degreased the plastic beforehand and always wear vinyl gloves when handling models after that point. Self leveling primer simple and easy application detail enhancing coverage. When my current bottle runs out i shall try some of this though. The windex if it's just a small bit, the lacquer if it's been a long spraying session. I've had great success with Black and a few other colors. Especially if not left to dry for long enough. Wot is the Brand?,.could be not pure Styrene and nuthin' sticks / glues to that ! But after 24h you'll find that they are way more scratch resistant. I liked what I read and decided to try some out. By Matt. Gives a great finish, easy to spray, dries quickly, and sticks much better to plastic, so sands properly. Posted March 31, 2017. I've used both Halfords types without issue. With regards to thinning, I have consulted numerous times with the largest paint maker locally and they say that thinning can be done but the important factor is compatibility. . All Scale Modeller 2021 If it is shipped and customs office does not let the package go, we do not make a refund. Specially designed for Airbrushing your favourite miniatures these high quality paints are manufactured in the United States by the long established and well know Badger Airbrush Company. Entrate las apuestas y pronsticos de este duelo. You can thin it with Vallejo Thinner and I have done so when a new bottle was a bit too thick. Glad its not only me thats suspicious of its so called bullet proof nature Duncan. The models in Atomic Mass Games' Marvel Crisis Protocol (MCP) are amazing to paint. I found the primer was very fluid and as I airbrushed it on it applied very thin which gave me some doubts about how tough it was going to be. Argentina control la . I was using a 0.5 needle, but at a little under 15 psi, I'll try cranking it up a bit next time. It's easy! You cannot paste images directly. I have never had an issue with Vallejo primers when the pieces are properly prepared and left to dry for a day. Tesseract Glow is right up my alley, following in the legacy of Nihilakh Oxide as a technical paint that is great for glowing techniques. As I say I use enamels which have a much tougher paint film and so need no primer at all but requite a solvent like white spirit, turpentine or 'Low odour' thinners (available from art shops) to thin and clean up. I got a bottle of Badger Stynylrez primer in my Reapercon swag bag, as did those of you that got one, and I just tried it out on some 1/4" blue insulation foam for a project the other evening, and it did NOT eat the foam in any way, shape, or form. Are we really only limited to a few airbrush primers then or are there some that I have no clue about? David Johnston (Brother Argos) and the Bolter and Chainsword $10.49 Price. Stocking over 80,000 different board, card and war games, miniatures, hobby supplies, toys, collectibles, books and puzzles; Meeplemart is Canada's Game & Geek culture superstore!! I haven't thought to take any pictures of anything I've primed with it before putting a top coat on it but after working with them for a while I've come to really appreciate Badgers Minitaire line of airbrush ready paints as well. Re: Badger Stynylrez thinning ratio. I use a hairdrier to speed up the drying. I was a committed Vallejo user, but now use Stynylrez almost exclusively ither than some black vallejo Mecha primer for more awkward plastics. It doesn't reach full strength for 24-48 hours though (it continues to harden fine if painted over) so bear that in mind if say, doing chipping fluid + scraping. Naci el 16 de marzo de 1892 en la ciudad andina de Santiago de Chuco del departamento de La Libertad. My beef is durability of the black. stynylrez primer is acrylics but it acts little bit as if it was a laquer, no dry tip, very resistant, self-levelling, it is very thick but it does not need to thinn and unlike other acrylic primers it is sandable until it has a feather edge, large coverage ,1/3 cup cover as with 2/3 of the other primers and it is foolproof, with small scratches By 60ml bottles are 4.50, and 120ml for 8 - cheaper than vallejo primer! But it looks like its like rocking horse doo doo to find in the U.K. in a decent quantity or price. If I could find a suitable container, could I just loosen the needle and pull it clear then stand the nose of the. Check out the full review. BIG X, Airbrush priming - Vallejo Primer vs Badger Stynylrez. The result when the tape or tac is removed is the paint & primer lifting - right down to the bare plastic. Had no joy with any needle smaller than .4. by P51dplt Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:56 pm, Post When the masking was removed, no paint lifted. Self leveling primer Simple and easy application detail enhancing coverage. Finally, put everything away for a week and had to do much repair work. Add to cart. I recently got some Stynlrez and, although I do find it quite superior to Vallejo, I still prefer my Duplicolor sandable auto primer as "the best"granted it has all its drawbacks of being a spray-on auto primer. IPA may have an effect on the seal depending on what the seals are made of . It is a US import, compared to vallejo from the EU. Biografa de Csar Vallejo. We cannot ship to a package forwarding company address because of the Japanese customs regulation. by GangsterNo1 Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:07 am, Post Another vote in praise for Stynylrez! Then a quick wash out with UMP Airbrush cleaner and it's sorted - just don't let it dry off. I usually go black primer and then highlight with grey. I keep a bit of windex and a bit of lacquer thinner around for cleaning it out. Restore formatting, And here I used my Stynylrez primer as paint-on primer on my Bones instead of Reaper liner. No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Barwell bodyworks are an official badger distributor; I've bought off them a few times now for parts too; Steve was very helpful when I borked one paypal order (echeque instead of card). And no airbrush primer is quite as tough as car body primer (halfords et al) as they don't have the same etching solvents that you can't (or shouldn't) spray inside, but I've been really happy with the flexibility and finish of airbrushing stynylrez. In Stock (Ships in 1-3 business days) List price: $14.75 Sign up for a new account in our community. Upload or insert images from URL. Stynylrez Primer can be applied to a variety of plastics, metal, woods, resins and various other substrates; simple and easy application, simple easy cleanup. I spray with a .4 needle at about 30psi and build up the colour in very light coats. Shot some black down as preshading without thinning and it seemed to work ok. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. SNR-203 Stynylrez Black Primer. Not quite as good as gunze or Tamiya though but i think it's actually better than Vallejo model air in a lot of ways. You can freely spray them right from the can. Tip dry and clogs like no tomorrow- and the white primer is completely useless. Stynylrez Primer can be applied to a variety of plastics, metal, woods, resins and various other substrates; simple and easy application, simple easy cleanup. Is there another decent airbrush primer that dries quickly in the U.K. that is worth picking up or am I stuck with the 24hr option or the fork out a kidney option for stynylrez? This Badger Airbrush Minitaire Stynylrez Primer Metal paint pot contains 4 ounces of water based Minitaire Stynylrez Primer Metal paint. Will acrylics there isn't that bond so Ithink they need to be more like a skin that wraps all the way around so it can hold onto itself if that makes sense? stynelrez is not a polyurethane like Vallejo primer is, and so it's a bit harder to clean out of your airbrush. The Black Gloss primer does not adhere anywhere as well as the regular Stynylrez Black primer. It's pretty hard once cured proper. S/15. knarthex, Your previous content has been restored. with Mr. Mr Surfacer does have a very good reputation, but I've not tried it as I'm not going to spray a lacquer paint in my living room! 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